tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6897109980624318819.post5553781999776719811..comments2024-03-26T10:52:57.859-07:00Comments on Murus inexpugnabilis : Molimo za vjerne mrtve, a ne za nevjerne mrtveAntemurale Christianitatishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10100848001702196023noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6897109980624318819.post-32600123986650847182017-06-29T02:15:14.968-07:002017-06-29T02:15:14.968-07:00Ima još jedna veoma problematična situacija. Kad, ...Ima još jedna veoma problematična situacija. Kad, na primjer, islamisti pobiju neku skupinu egipatskih kopta, i onda jave pojedinci koji te kopte nazivaju "mučenicima", iako oni uopće nisu katolici, već heretici (monofiziti) i raskolnici (izvan zajedništva sa Svetom Stolicom).<br />Sveti oci i crkveni naučitelji, posebno sv. Ciprijan, jasno nas uče da čak i kad bi heretici prolili svoju krv, ne mogu se spasiti. Nema spasenja bez prave vjere i pripadnosti Katoličkoj Crkvi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6897109980624318819.post-15125631598540221792017-06-28T22:09:36.346-07:002017-06-28T22:09:36.346-07:00Ako se za nekog čovjeka koji je umro izvan vidljiv...Ako se za nekog čovjeka koji je umro izvan vidljivog zajedništva Crkve "prema vjerojatnim dokazima može pretpostaviti da je umro u (katoličkoj) vjeri i milosti", smije se za njega privatno moliti, ali ne javno, jer nije bio član Crkve. Tko zna kome je od takvih, koji su već za života pokazivali znakove približavanja Vjeri, možda Bog u zadnjim trenucima dao milost obraćenja?<br /><br />Catholic Encyclopedia, Prayers for the Dead:<br /><br />"Church laws regarding public offices for the dead<br /><br />There is no restriction by Divine or ecclesiastical law as to those of the dead for whom private prayer may be offered — except that they may not be offered formally either for the blessed in heaven or for the damned. Not only for the faithful who have died in external communion with the Church, but for deceased non-Catholics, even the unbaptized, who may have died in the state of grace, one is free to offer his personal prayers and good works; nor does the Church's prohibition of her public offices for those who have died out of external communion with her affect the strictly personal element in her minister's acts. For all such she prohibits the public offering of the Sacrifice of the Mass (and of other liturgical offices); but theologians commonly teach that a priest is not forbidden to offer the Mass in private for the repose of the soul of any one who, judging by probable evidence, may be presumed to have died in faith and grace, provided, at least, he does not say the special requiem Mass with the special prayer in which the deceased is named, since this would give the offering a public and official character. This prohibition does not extend to catechumens who have died without being able to receive baptism (see, v.g., Lehmkuhl, "Theol. Moralis", II, n. 175 sq.)."tradicionalni katoliknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6897109980624318819.post-6707625545563614342017-06-28T06:53:17.120-07:002017-06-28T06:53:17.120-07:00Baš kao što je beskorisna molitva I GUBLJENJE VREM...Baš kao što je beskorisna molitva I GUBLJENJE VREMENA za one u Paklu , tako i za one koji su umrli u teškom grijehu i tvrdokornoj nevjeri i odbijanju Boga do smrti . No danas je o tome nepopularno i tabu govoriti jer se svi spašavaju. RobelarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com